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Hannah-Rose Goddess Devine Supreme OverLady
Number of posts : 1038 Reputation : Registration date : 2008-03-01
| Subject: Rib-Cage Mon 29 Sep 2008 - 6:26 | |
| You live a life combined of colour and empty space and in-between. While outside, a grey slate wing sky gets progressively less blue (memory may be rose-tinted, but my life is a deeper blue than anywhere else in the world, the kind you can fall into). Sound drifting through recycled air occupies a certain quantity of sensation as do the surrounding voices and the thoughts that whisper through like electric humming.
With the banishment of passing fancies, there is only commune with arbitrary thought left to garner love of the flitting sense (flickering sensibility, thoughts that may drift into sensation like vanilla perfume but always seem to set to rot in the end). So, turn thoughts and eyes to the threadbare, tight-drawn sky and ground that shows as patches of rust, the tendrils of cloud dissembling themselves into empty air – You could be so as well, but I’d say your rib-cage is just that like your eyelids and flesh shuts itself in. | |
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Logiebear Beloved Squirrel Moderator
Number of posts : 1224 Age : 32 Location : Cloud Cuckoo Land Reputation : Registration date : 2008-04-11
| Subject: Re: Rib-Cage Mon 29 Sep 2008 - 7:08 | |
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Hannah-Rose Goddess Devine Supreme OverLady
Number of posts : 1038 Reputation : Registration date : 2008-03-01
| Subject: Re: Rib-Cage Mon 29 Sep 2008 - 7:40 | |
| Curiously, it's poetry. Do expand, my dear. | |
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Logiebear Beloved Squirrel Moderator
Number of posts : 1224 Age : 32 Location : Cloud Cuckoo Land Reputation : Registration date : 2008-04-11
| Subject: Re: Rib-Cage Mon 29 Sep 2008 - 11:36 | |
| I've just always wanted to criticize a poem by simply stating the aforementioned. Shits and giggles have been had.
Serious Crits:
1) Using brackets in poetry. It makes it seem like you forgot to mention something the first time around and had to sneak it in. In this situation I think they're unnecessary.
2) "You could be so as well, but I’d say your rib-cage is just that" Sounds conversational and flippant conflicting with the serious emotions you're evoking surrounding this passage.
3) I didn't understand it. The central metaphor of 'Rib-cage' was completely lost on me. When I tried to put the poem into the context of the title, I found I couldn't make heads nor tales of it. | |
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wretchedkisses Apprentice Squirrel
Number of posts : 320 Age : 34 Location : Wellywood Reputation : Registration date : 2008-09-04
| Subject: Re: Rib-Cage Mon 29 Sep 2008 - 11:51 | |
| I agree with Logan's #3, but I disagree with #1 - I like the brackets.
This, however: Sound drifting through recycled air occupies a certain quantity of sensation as do the surrounding voices and the thoughts that whisper through like electric humming.
WHERE IS THE PUNCTUATION?! Seriously - try reading that aloud; an enter does not a breathe equate.
Also, use of 'progressively'.. it just doesn't scan well and its audibly at a contrast with the softer-sounding tone of the the rest of the poem. | |
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Logiebear Beloved Squirrel Moderator
Number of posts : 1224 Age : 32 Location : Cloud Cuckoo Land Reputation : Registration date : 2008-04-11
| Subject: Re: Rib-Cage Mon 29 Sep 2008 - 11:52 | |
| Oh i kinda see the bracket effect now. *crit retract* | |
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Hannah-Rose Goddess Devine Supreme OverLady
Number of posts : 1038 Reputation : Registration date : 2008-03-01
| Subject: Re: Rib-Cage Mon 29 Sep 2008 - 12:55 | |
| Thankies darlings. Too late now, but there will be rewrites in the morning... | |
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Synaesthesia Apprentice Squirrel
Number of posts : 368 Age : 33 Location : location-less Reputation : Registration date : 2008-06-05
| Subject: Re: Rib-Cage Mon 29 Sep 2008 - 22:45 | |
| Yes,
1) Aforementioned punctuation - perhaps semi-colons or end stopped lines may aid the structure of the poem. Particularly before the parentheses.
2) Diction.
"Into sensation like vanilla perfume but always seem to set to rot in the end" The word 'sensation' seems too heavy and emphatic juxtaposed with the light sensuousness of the luxuriant vowel sounds in 'vanilla perfume.' "Seem to set to rot in the end" - Phrasing; this could be more concise. It seems a bit clumsy. I find that there are voices that don't quite flow together just yet. There's the colloquial first person voice and there's the omniscient persona. I like the ending, but it seems a bit sudden for the first person to appear. I don't think it necessarily detracts from the rest of the poem however. Perhaps more fluency in the voices would tighten the poem together.
Also, the parentheses you have used are brilliantly crafted. It is as if a whispering voice subliminally elaborates on the central ideas - adding depth to the poem and evoking multi-faceted layers.
It's a poem that needs to be pruned, but it's good stuff. | |
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Logiebear Beloved Squirrel Moderator
Number of posts : 1224 Age : 32 Location : Cloud Cuckoo Land Reputation : Registration date : 2008-04-11
| Subject: Re: Rib-Cage Tue 30 Sep 2008 - 0:53 | |
| I still don't understand it. | |
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Hannah-Rose Goddess Devine Supreme OverLady
Number of posts : 1038 Reputation : Registration date : 2008-03-01
| Subject: Re: Rib-Cage Tue 30 Sep 2008 - 7:08 | |
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Logiebear Beloved Squirrel Moderator
Number of posts : 1224 Age : 32 Location : Cloud Cuckoo Land Reputation : Registration date : 2008-04-11
| Subject: Re: Rib-Cage Tue 30 Sep 2008 - 7:44 | |
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Hannah-Rose Goddess Devine Supreme OverLady
Number of posts : 1038 Reputation : Registration date : 2008-03-01
| Subject: Re: Rib-Cage Tue 30 Sep 2008 - 7:53 | |
| No, I understood it when I wrote it. But that was a couple of months ago... mm...
And I'd actually have to concentrate to remember WHY this poem was... | |
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Synaesthesia Apprentice Squirrel
Number of posts : 368 Age : 33 Location : location-less Reputation : Registration date : 2008-06-05
| Subject: Re: Rib-Cage Tue 30 Sep 2008 - 11:13 | |
| I like how it's ambiguous. | |
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Hannah-Rose Goddess Devine Supreme OverLady
Number of posts : 1038 Reputation : Registration date : 2008-03-01
| Subject: Re: Rib-Cage Wed 1 Oct 2008 - 1:04 | |
| Yes! Ambiguous! That was totally what I was going for! | |
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Logiebear Beloved Squirrel Moderator
Number of posts : 1224 Age : 32 Location : Cloud Cuckoo Land Reputation : Registration date : 2008-04-11
| Subject: Re: Rib-Cage Wed 1 Oct 2008 - 1:39 | |
| your mind scares me.
Not just sometimes, but a lot. | |
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Hannah-Rose Goddess Devine Supreme OverLady
Number of posts : 1038 Reputation : Registration date : 2008-03-01
| Subject: Re: Rib-Cage Wed 1 Oct 2008 - 2:23 | |
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Hannah-Rose Goddess Devine Supreme OverLady
Number of posts : 1038 Reputation : Registration date : 2008-03-01
| Subject: Re: Rib-Cage Wed 1 Oct 2008 - 11:56 | |
| Okay, so after several overlookings and pokings with a pointy stick, I've affected some minor changes in the way of flow and punctuation. However, I've added nothing to make it clearer to understand, because I remembered what it was about... ^^o The entire thing is the avoidance of a central thought - the central thought being allowing the mind to rest too long on the 'You' directed to at the start and end. And everything else - observations (oh yeah, by the way, written on a plane), the sky that high, that weird quality of sound in a plane, these are just things the speaker focuses on to avoid the 'vanilla perfume' thoughts that she knows aren't good for her. And the rib-cage as a theme has a double meaning, the speaker observes that the 'you' is introverted, locked within his own personal space "your rib-cage is just that": a cage for the heart. But also, she is locked within her circumstances, and the circumstances lock him away from her.
So, with that in mind, round two:
You live a life combined of colour and empty space and in-between. While outside, a grey slate wing sky gets progressively less blue (memory may be rose-tinted, but my life is a deeper blue than anywhere else in the world, the kind you can fall into). Sound drifting through recycled air occupies a certain quantity of sensation; as do the surrounding voices, and the thoughts that whisper through like electric humming.
With the banishment of passing fancies, there is only commune with arbitrary thought left to garner love of the flitting sense (flickering sensibility, thoughts that may drift into sensation like vanilla perfume, but, they always seem to set to rot in the end). So, turn thoughts and eyes to the threadbare, tight-drawn sky and ground that shows as patches of rust, the tendrils of cloud dissembling themselves into empty air – You could be so as well, but I’d say your rib-cage is just that, like your eyelids and flesh shuts itself in. | |
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Hannah-Rose Goddess Devine Supreme OverLady
Number of posts : 1038 Reputation : Registration date : 2008-03-01
| Subject: Re: Rib-Cage Mon 6 Oct 2008 - 7:07 | |
| Hell! I can even give you illustrations! XD | |
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artsgeek Bloodied Typewriter
Number of posts : 144 Age : 41 Reputation : Registration date : 2008-03-31
| Subject: Re: Rib-Cage Sat 27 Dec 2008 - 23:33 | |
| Okay, so I didn't specifically get the Rib-Cage bit, but it's always nice to leave something that has to have a little effort to unearth. But I did fully get the overwhelming aura of unrequited schoolgirl crush... Which, while being an unholyly (it's a word now, deal with it) dull subject for poetry, is conveyed eloquently enough... some nice turns of phrase, now just try and talk about something rather than nothing for a change... | |
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Hannah-Rose Goddess Devine Supreme OverLady
Number of posts : 1038 Reputation : Registration date : 2008-03-01
| Subject: Re: Rib-Cage Sun 28 Dec 2008 - 5:34 | |
| I know, but you know what's even worse? Teenagers writing about things they've never experienced. There is nothing more awful... so I stick to my dull reality... | |
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