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lol lol, can we still count that as one of today's bad gay jokes?

one of the kids shot was the leader of the school's Gay-Straght Alliance (even their school gets one!)

She's described as being a lesbian from way back who used to be friends with the girl but her mum went to pick her up one day from the lesbian's house and found that she had convince her daughter to pee on the front lawn like a boy. There's a bit of the storyline where they are trying to figure out if he was targeting gay people because she got shot but not killed and the gay teacher got killed.

Ah, yes. *remembers*..

Hmm. I'd hate very much to think that JP was writing from a place of personal homophobia; I think instead it has probably derived from writing from the teenage psyche and dealing with Peter's own feelings about it.

Hmm yes, or the girl's hindsight thoughts on what could have been a perfectly normal, if rather weird, suggestion from a young child, sexuality only comes into it when she learns later that the girl (I think Natalie?) isn't straight.

Yeah, plus Josie is probably struggling with her own ability to rationalise behaviour - she deals with fucked up people judging and conforming all the time, so hindsight on something like that would be a bit skew-iff.

I loved Nineteen Minutes. *stares adoringly at her copy on her bookshelf*

As to the issues of homophobia being personal, that is ambiguous. Although, she did state that she was religious when someone in the audience asked her.

Did any of you see Jodi Picoult when she came over to Auckland? I got Change Of Heart dedicated and signed.

One Foot Wrong - Sofie Laguna
The Blue Door - Andre Brink
One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest- Ken Kesey

I've read One Flew.. its amazing. Don't bother with the movie, it doesn't do it justice.

The film distorted the ending! It's blasphemy for a cinematic experience.

Our teacher thought it would be a phenomenal idea to play the film to us in Psychology, under the premise that it would 'aid' our learning and understanding of Rosenhan's field research (the man who revoked the American DSM-II and the wonderful world of Psychiatry)

Synaesthesia wrote:

As to the issues of homophobia being personal, that is ambiguous. Although, she did state that she was religious when someone in the audience asked her.

Did any of you see Jodi Picoult when she came over to Auckland? I got Change Of Heart dedicated and signed.

JEALOUS!!! No one would go with me

ergh, I'm really starting to hate religion, including my own. P'raps this is an improvement.

I got to sit in the front row, even. Right in the middle. Within 2 metres of Jodi Picoult. If I had known you, you would have SO BEEN THERE.

Religion is a peculiar thing indeed.

What is your religion?

again jealous! next time?

I'm Christian, Methodist.

But I've stopped going to church coz I don't know the new ministers views on homosexuality but I don't think they're positive.

I refused communion at my Uncle's church coz I was only there for one week and he had to mention that homosexuality is wrong, not even prech it, just mention like it was commonly accepted. He also doesn't support second marriages. I gave him a bit of a shock when I didn't want to be relieved of my 'sins'.

Go the Pagans!

Love is good, sex is good. Love is never a sin, in fact, it's encouraged.

Ay ye, harm none, do as ye will.

Right, KayLynn?

Love is love is love. God loves you all, whether you're a fan of the meat kebab or you dine at the y and irrespective of whatever meal you've prepared yourself.

"Religion" is for fatheads who invest too much time in telling other people who to live, but faith is rad.

If I was going to be any religion, I'm pretty sure pagan would be well up there... but there's that whole deity thing I could never quite get to grips with. ^^o

I'm looking at Unified Unitarianism.

It's a religion where you find your own path of enlightenment and have a respect for all spiritual beliefs in the quest to find one that matches you.

'Course I was Pastafarian for a while, before I converted to Celestial Teapot-ism.

I found one I quite liked the sound of on wiki ... can't for the life of me remember what it's called, but basically, there are no beliefs, and no structure. Which is probably the closest thing to organised religion I could handle long-term... XD

I think that's the one I'm talking about

No ... it began with D...

Well until you figure it out, it's the same thing

Hannah-Rose wrote:

If I was going to be any religion, I'm pretty sure pagan would be well up there... but there's that whole deity thing I could never quite get to grips with. ^^o

You don't have to believe in deities to be Pagan. A lot of my Pagan friends don't believe in any personifications of god. One of them calls herself an Aethiest witch (how do you spell that....). One of them just believes in the power of the universe and the power of science.

Atheist.

So basically, many of your pagan friends are aligning themselves to a religion with which they (like most) have very little understanding of in order to gain more emo-kid scene points?

Agreed with that one Johnny